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If you are unable to complete a move for technical reasons, you can request technical help below. This is the correct method if you tried to move a page, but you got an error message saying something like "You do not have permission to move this page, for the following reasons:..." or "The/This page could not be moved, for the following reason:..."

To list a technical request: edit the Uncontroversial technical requests subsection and insert the following code at the bottom of the list, filling in pages and reason:
{{subst:RMassist|current page title|new title|reason=edit summary for the move}}
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If you object to a proposal listed in the uncontroversial technical requests section, please move the request to the Contested technical requests section, append a note on the request elaborating on why, and sign with ~~~~. Consider pinging the requester to let them know about the objection.
If your technical request is contested, or if a contested request is left untouched without reply, create a requested move on the article talk and remove the request from the section here. The fastest and easiest way is to click the "discuss" button at the request, save the talk page, and remove the entry on this page.

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Technical requests[edit]

Uncontroversial technical requests[edit]

Ysleta del Sur Pueblo → Tigua (currently a redirect back to Ysleta del Sur Pueblo) (move · discuss) – Page is about both a pueblo and corresponding tribe, both sometimes called Tigua. "Tigua" therefore makes more sense to describe both together, and already redirects to that page. — Moriwen (talk) 00:46, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just as a note, we have the page Tiwa Puebloans as well, which purports to talk about Tigua people... and if the article Ysleta del Sur Pueblo is intended to refer to a geographical location, perhaps it should remain thus. The situation is a bit confusing to be honest, and perhaps an RM involving those who know about this topic would be advisable. — Amakuru (talk) 15:12, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nisqually Indian Tribe of the Nisqually Reservation → Nisqually Indian Tribe (currently a redirect back to Nisqually Indian Tribe of the Nisqually Reservation) (move · discuss) – Change name to match name of tribe on the Federal Register Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 05:27, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not Nisqually tribe (or Nisqually Tribe or Nisqually Indian tribe)? Also, is "Indian" the best word choice here? —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 10:31, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sources are mixed on use of "indian", even the tribe's official website uses it. As to the title, I'm not sure entirely whether we should use the federal register or dive deeper to find the common name via sources, I'm leaning towards the second (not sure if there's a special convention here though) ASUKITE 13:58, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Meath → Meath (disambiguation) (currently a redirect back to Meath) (move · discuss) – It should be made a disambiguation page so Meath can be redirected to County Meath, which is the primary topic. TwinBoo (talk) 14:49, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Probably worth a discussion, as the historical Kingdom of Meath clearly has a long-term significance as well. Navigation statistics show that around 30% of viewers on the dab page go there, which is reasonably high given that County Meath is a current extant county where people live... Might be worth a discussion? — Amakuru (talk) 15:28, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Bo-ra! Deborah → True to Love (currently a redirect back to Bo-ra! Deborah) (move · discuss) – Official English title per Studio Genie. 98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 • [𝚃𝙰𝙻𝙺] 15:50, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requests to revert undiscussed moves[edit]

Contested technical requests[edit]

American open-wheel car racing → Indy car racing (currently a redirect back to American open-wheel car racing) (move · discuss) – WP:COMMONTERM RegalZ8790 (talk) 18:57, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Is it though? I'm not sure "indy car" really saw much use before the 1990s, retconning the entire history of American racing is at least worth a discussion. 162 etc. (talk) 05:02, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
if i can chime in, the page is an overview of Indy car racing only, which has been known by that name since the 1950s. If it was an full histort of American racing it would also discuss the other open-wheel disciplines such as sprint cars, midget cars, super modifieds and modifieds. Not to mention the non-open-wheel of NASCAR and Drag Racing. The article itself is clear that the common term is Indy car. thank you 2605:59C8:10F0:1410:396E:69B0:4005:79DF (talk) 13:46, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Though it isn't, Formula cars are also called indy cars, according to some authorities. So any open-wheel open-cockpit single-seat racing prototype/specialty series/race would be indy car racing, not just American ones, including formula, including spec racing. -- 65.92.244.237 (talk) 05:14, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Belgica metro station → Belgica (Brussels Metro) (currently a redirect back to Belgica metro station) (move · discuss) – Bélgica (Madrid Metro) is formatted in this manner 65.92.244.237 (talk) 10:29, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
All entries at Category:Brussels metro stations are of the form X metro station, and this matches the standard for rail transport stations across the whole project so certainly the proposed move should not go ahead as specified. Arguably it's the Madrid metro stations which do not follow that format and should probably be renamed... On the specific question of whether further disambiguation is needed between the Brussel and the Madrid Belgicas, it seems like the diacritic (Belgica vs Bélgica) is sufficient here per WP:SMALLDETAILS so I'd recommend leaving the Brussels one exactly as it is. Cheers — Amakuru (talk) 11:13, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Bélgica itself (with the diacritic) redirects to Belgium, and Brussels is in Belgium... -- 65.92.244.237 (talk) 11:42, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The current title meets WP:NATURAL. Maybe it's Bélgica (Madrid Metro) that needs moving? Either way, yes, this is not uncontroversial. Steel1943 (talk) 14:20, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Attempted assassination of Robert Fico → Shooting of Robert Fico (currently a redirect back to Attempted assassination of Robert Fico) (move · discuss) – Moving the article to the current title was jumping to ungrounded conclusions, and as such shouldn't happen here. The requested title was the original article's title. Now it is a redirect page with more edits in the history, so I cannot move it back. The content of the article state that the attack was not meant to kill him. IHaveBecauseOfLocks (talk) 14:29, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

IHaveBecauseOfLocks, given that this was a subject of discussion on the talk page and elsewhere, an unilateral move may be contentious. Please open a RM discussion. – robertsky (talk) 16:01, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

David TC Davies → David T. C. Davies (currently a redirect back to David TC Davies) (move · discuss) – Per MOS:INITIALS. While the subject may prefer it styled this way, the reliable sources do not follow suit, which is the key point in the policy grounds for an exception style SchroCat (talk) 18:04, 28 May 2024 (UTC) - SchroCat (talk) 18:04, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@SchroCat: The article was moved from David T. C. Davies to its current title less than a year ago, so this would require further discussion. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 19:49, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Over two years ago, actually. But yes, there needs to be a requested move discussion before restoring this reverted move. You can open an RM by clicking "discuss" on this request. SilverLocust 💬 05:39, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@SilverLocust Both actually. It was moved in February 2022 (over two years) and again in June 2023 (less than a year). --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 13:36, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The talk page was moved in June 2023 without moving the article. SilverLocust 💬 16:14, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Environmental impact of the Israel–Hamas war → Environmental damage caused by the Israel–Hamas war (currently a redirect back to Environmental impact of the Israel–Hamas war) (move · discuss) – This was a good faith move, that involved some minimal discussion, but the way to move controversial topics is through a move request. Since this page is currently on the main page, we can wait until its off the main page before we move it back to avoid a redirect. VR _{(Please ping on reply)} 04:37, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Discussion is discussion. The mover linked https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Environmental_damage_caused_by_the_Israel%E2%80%93Hamas_war#Suggested_rename and https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:DYK#Environmental_damage_in_the_Gaza_Strip_caused_by_the_Israel%E2%80%93Hamas_war where there was WP:CONSENSUS at least. If you think the rename should be what you propose, then file a new move request at WP:RM. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 11:09, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oyer and terminer → Oyer and Terminer (currently a redirect back to Oyer and terminer) (move · discuss) – legal title of a court deisenbe (talk) 20:03, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Deisenbe: Google Ngrams shows very mixed use on whether to capitalize. MOS:CAPS defaults to lowercase when there isn't a substantial majority for capitalizing. This move is potentially controversial, so it would require a requested-move discussion, which you can begin by clicking "discuss" on your request. You can remove this request after opening a discussion (or if you do not want to continue). SilverLocust 💬 01:56, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Monte Mars → Mont Mars (currently a redirect instead to Monte Mars) (move · discuss) – "Mont Mars" is far more widely sourced on the Internet that "Monte Mars". --Simoncik84 (talk) 13:11, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Simoncik84: The rest of the pages in Category:Mountains of the Biellese Alps use Monte. If you want to make an argument that they should all be renamed, that would need a formal move discussion. See WP:RMPM for instructions. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 14:03, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm talking here about Mont Mars only. Among the pages of this category, it's the only one with an entirely French name. Some of the other summits of this category which stay on the water divide between the Province of Biella and the Aosta Valley. In the latest, French is co-official with Italian, these summits have therefore two official names (in Italian and in French), as you can see in the articles' introduction, but not Mont Mars. Simoncik84 (talk) 15:10, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Administrator needed[edit]

Kwansŏ → Kwanso (currently a redirect back to Kwansŏ) (move · discuss) – While this was posted under "Uncontroversial technical requests", an "Oppose" was indicated, with the expectation that since it was no longer uncontroversial, this request would be repositioned under WP:RM. The request was nevertheless subsequently moved as "Uncontroversial", but it should be restored to its previous form and submitted to a vote under WP:RM. — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 15:12, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]