Talk:4D film

List of Films

It's widely expected that the filmography in this section is incomplete, so feel free to add any listings that you come across, or delete any that are no longer running at the given venue.

McDoobAU93 03:42, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Is Spidey truly a 4D film?

I have a question for readers on the subject of the Spider-Man attractions at Universal's parks in Florida and Japan. In my opinion, this is a dark ride that happens to use 3D films as part of its special-effects package, and thus should not be listed as a 4D film. However, it does meet parts of the definition being presented. Perhaps it should be listed separately, as it's more of a hybrid attraction. Opinions?

McDoobAU93 17:18, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Scary?

I personaly think these 4-D movies are the scaryest things man has ever invented.

--Knowlege: Life's greatest gift, or terrible curse, how do you use it...? (talk) 17:03, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

No film is 4D?

Every film is made in 4D! Some amount of time always passes while watching a movie. --189.79.64.152 (talk) 19:00, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

I was wondering about that too. However, the term 3-D has already been commonly used in a way that ignores time in counting the dimensions (a buzz term really), so the mistake is hardly unique to the term 4-D.

That said, it seems to me the article should be rewritten to reflect that the hype surrounding 3-D and 4-D films is not really based in scientific fact. --Dekker451 (talk) 23:53, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

I'd read that the fourth dimension is no longer interpreted as time. But I'm no expert on the subject either.--24.147.62.26 (talk) 20:32, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

The term "4D" shouldn't be taken literally anyway. Water and shaking chairs are not dimensions in any sense of the word. It's just a way of pointing out that the experience is "more" than you get during 3D movie. Time also doesn't count simply because that's not part of the movie - if you sat in the movie theater without any film playing, time would still be passing at the same rate. The projector adds three dimensions worth of film, but has no effect on time. - Alltat (talk) 08:34, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

This wiki really needs revamped

This wiki looks pretty rough. Would anyone object to everything before list of films being completely re-done? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tunafizzle (talk • contribs) 21:47, 15 December 2011‎

Feel free to go right ahead. Themeparkgc  Talk  21:54, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Moo Monkey

Removed: The Adventures Of Moo Monkey || 2012 || Cinamax Theater, Cottonwood AZ, United States ||

Found no sources for it with Google. --Fluffystar (talk) 23:04, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

4D vs. 4DX?

Upon adding Iron Man 3 to the list, I noticed that it's also labeled as 4DX on its wikipedia article. Should 4DX films be included in the 4D article or should they remain separate? 4DX may appear to just be a branding name, as the description of 4DX and 4D are nearly identical, but I don't know enough about it to really say. However, I thought I would bring up this point for discussion. I personally feel 4DX should probably be included in the 4D article for previously mentioned reasons. What do you guys think? The same, or unique and separate? Thanks. --Tsukiakari (talk) 14:47, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Pirates 4-D

Edited Pirates 4-D entry to reflect a major revision to its Article. Note that this film actually first opened in 1997, not 1999, at Sea World Ohio, then at Busch Gardens Williamsburg in 1998, then Thorpe Park in 1999 as well as (probably) Busch Gardens Tampa Bay later in 1999. Re-ordered Release Venue(s) to reflect 1997-1999 time period, in order. Placed new Notes entry. Moved unrelated entry from Pirates 4-D Notes to its own entry (The Amazing Adventures of Spider-man (1999). Please note: I take no responsibility for the veracity of this Spider-man entry. I simply moved it to preserve the information, and leave it to others to support it. Oddjob84 (talk) 14:56, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Fly High

Moved table entry from article to talk pending verification. Edit by IP editor was incorrect in table, entry would not display. Will replace it into table correctly after verifying its notability. Pasted entry: ''Fly High:The Legend Of Black Man'' ''First Indian 4-D Film'' 2017 [Directed By Rahul Rathish Kumar] Oddjob84 (talk) 13:25, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

This film fails to meet notability. Neither its title or director have been found in a search effort. The claim of "first Indian 4-D film" apparently belongs to another film. See: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/news/Indias-first-Bollywood-4D-film-is-low-budget/articleshow/29905841.cms This item will not be placed in the article. Oddjob84 (talk) 15:20, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Edits October 2017

Changed original "Screening Formats" table to a larger format with more fields. The information is the same, excepting some additions in the new fields, including references. The new table is sortable. The original format has been preserved (remarked out) for the present. I will return and clean up after a period for comments. I think the distinction between commercial cinemas and those in theme parks is artificial, and I will be adding the theme park systems shortly unless there are strident objections. Oddjob84 (talk) 15:16, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

Added History heading and wrote section. Oddjob84 (talk) 14:26, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

4D Formats w/ Temperature Changes?

Temperature changes are mentioned in the lead, but don't appear again. What format(s) include this effect? 108.246.204.20 (talk) 11:20, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

Other systems

@Kleuske: @Pinkbeast: Can you butcher the other articles like D-Box Technologies (+ List of D-Box motion-enhanced theatrical films & List of D-Box motion-enhanced cinemas) and 4DX (+ List of 4DX motion-enhanced films) too? JSH-alive/^{talk/cont/mail} 16:06, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

Maybe. I'm painfully aware there's more of this crap than I can possibly fix. That said, I have put this on my list of rainy-day things, which I do process occasionally, but no promises. Pinkbeast (talk) 19:58, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

@Pinkbeast: I see. Thanks anyway. JSH-alive/^{talk/cont/mail} 16:18, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Apple smartglasses?

This page seems to have a bit of random speculation about companies and products that do not exist (at least, yet):

And Apple smartglasses are a natural fit for 4D venues.[19] As are AWS, Weta Digital, and Unity offerings.[20][21]

How do we know that? Perhaps this could be generalised rather than picking on these speculative examples, as for example, Unity is not really a hardware company.

Also, there are quite a few broken up sentences on this page (including the one quoted above) that start with words like 'As' and 'And', so it doesn't flow too well. --Jarnarvious (talk) 00:15, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

Tone

I'm adding a Template:tone tag since this page does not currently align with Wikipedia's tone. Right now the article's tone is a cross between a fansite and an advert for the technology, such as seen in sentences like "In 4D theaters, sitting closer to screens produces a cinematic virtual reality simulator, flight simulator, flying theater multisensory immersive experience". KJ800X (talk) 21:42, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

I've gone ahead and removed some of the most blatent advertisement. The page is still bad, but I think that's inevitable when the subject is basically just a marketing term. QuarksAndElectrons (talk) 09:54, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

What about William Castle?

Is there some reason William Castle's equipment is not even brought up in this entry? Seems to me he was installing this stuff in theaters long before any of what's described here. 69.125.229.110 (talk) 21:21, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

Remove selected filmography?

Should the selected filmography be removed? Almost all the movies listed are either already included in List_of_4DX_motion-enhanced_films or way too minor to actually be worth mentioning here. QuarksAndElectrons (talk) 16:28, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Was oppenheimer ever truly released in 4dx?

A 3 hour rated R biopic with little action (except for the climax) having a 4dx release seems a bit strange, especially considering the fact that there is little, if any documentation of an oppenheimer 4dx release. The only citation is a IMDB page which is not significant enough evidence. 71.46.222.124 (talk) 15:03, 15 December 2023 (UTC)