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Remove "people who doubted Obama's citizenship were racist or republican."
It was a conspiracy spread among people of all political preference, and it is just as wrong to assume anyone with a negative view on someone who happens to be "of color" is always racist or republican. ("Of color" is a racist term by the way. We all have color in our skin) 2601:187:8380:5330:19C7:77AA:CF14:473E (talk) 07:55, 15 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know what you're quoting, but it's not this article. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:11, 15 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
In order for it to be a conspiracy the conspiracy suggestions are needed. From what I have read - I haven't seen any suggestion of a conspiracy. Therefore - it's just a thoery or rumor at worst. But definetly no a conspiracy theory. Norbert427 (talk) 17:45, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The theories suggests that some people conspired to hide the "truth" about Obama's citizenship and place of birth. Therefore a conspiracy theory. --Escape Orbit(Talk) 17:51, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Exactly. For example, there are people who said Obama's birth certificate was forged. Yet officials from the State of Hawaii repeatedly have said it is genuine. If the officials are lying, they are in on the conspiracy; if the officials have been duped, there was a conspiracy to insert a false document into Hawaii's records (Obama could not have done it alone); if his parents lied about his place of birth, they conspired; etc. Weazie (talk) 22:03, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
