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After Being Stricken by Drought, Istanbul Yields Ancient Treasure by Jennifer Pinkowski, published January 23, 2012; excerpt ...
For 1,600 years, this city — Turkey’s largest — has been built and destroyed, erected and erased, as layer upon layer of life has thrived on its seven hills. Today, Istanbul is a city of 13 million, spread far beyond those hills. And on a long-farmed peninsula jutting into Lake Küçükçekmece, 13 miles west of the city center, archaeologists have made an extraordinary find.

99.35.14.94 (talk) 07:34, 26 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A new article from a Turkish newpaper[edit]

http://www.radikal.com.tr/Radikal.aspx?aType=RadikalDetayV3&ArticleID=1097916&CategoryID=79 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cemyildiz (talk • contribs) 11:28, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hittite, not Roman[edit]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3087060/posts — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bilgin adem (talk • contribs) 12:38, 7 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This does not mean anything (yet). For example, Etruria is filled with Greek stuff, but the Greeks never were there: the Etruscan just bought greek goods. The info in this article can for sure be added, but without jumping to OR conclusions. Alex2006 (talk) 12:59, 7 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

How can bronze age artifacts found in the area can be explained if we start the history of the city with the Romans? It's certainly older than Romans. Then comes the question of "why Hittites?" The idea of Hittite/Hurrians is supported by iron god and goddess statues, porcelain and tins from 1800 BC. Please correct this. (Sorry for forgetting to sign the change and answering very late) Bilgin adem (talk) 19:48, 18 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The explaination is quite easy: a settlement is not a city. For example, on the site of Rome have been found artifacts stemming from hundreds of years before the establishment of the city. But at that time on the seven hills there were a bunch of settlements which had not yet urban character. Nevertheless, we can adjourn the article writing that artifacts of the bronze age have been found on this site. Alex2006 (talk) 09:31, 19 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

OK, but when you "adjourn the article writing that artifacts of the bronze age have been found on this site" you should also mention the Hurrian art. Bathonea is also important for Hittites as it is the first site which shows that Hittites had a settlement in European lands. Thank you. Bilgin adem (talk) 14:41, 19 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

In order to write that, we need more than a newspaper article. :-) Do you have any archeologic paper that claims that this was really an hittite settlement, and not just a settlement whose inhabitants bought hittite goods from Anatolia? In Italy, etruscan tombs are filled with Greek stuff: vases, statues, and so on, but this is no proof that there were Greek settlements in Etruria. These goods came to Italy through trade. Alex2006 (talk) 14:52, 19 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]