Talk:Glue-size

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There appears to be a slight misunderstanding, or possibly poor wording, about animal hide glue. The glue isn't the hide itself; the glue is produced by boiling the hide in water, and the resulting solution in the water is the glue (the remaining solids are strained out and discarded). Shall I tweak the wording accordingly? Awien (talk) 00:05, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Awien - please do. Ceoil (talk) 02:55, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Oops, sorry got to it before seeing this. But my fix isn't very good. Truthkeeper (talk) 03:01, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

I've now done a fairly light copyedit to the whole article. I hope I haven't introduced any inaccuracies. I've also flagged a place where there seems to be something missing. See what you think. Awien (talk) 00:07, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, it looks good. I reinstated one sentence because it removed a step. The pigment was mixed/bound in glue, and the linen was treated with glue and chalk. I've also clarified, a bit, the piece you tagged. This page was thrown together in a hurry, but any help is more than welcome. I have a source I haven't completely read that I have to go through again to add. Probably won't happen for a few days. Truthkeeper (talk) 00:41, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

I would have thought it was adequately stated in the first paragraph, no? Awien (talk) 03:20, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

Unless you have a better understanding of this process than I do, which is entirely possible, I'd prefer to keep it as is for the moment. It took me about two weeks to understand that the process involved both a glue-based paint and a glue-treated linen. I like the way you rewrote part of that sentence and would like to keep it together that way until either Ceoil or I can give the page more attention. That sentence might work better in the lead or maybe the page will be expanded and sectioned so that the current repetition isn't a problem. Give me a chance to have a look at the sources we have which I'd be happy to send on to you if you're interested. Thanks. Truthkeeper (talk) 19:03, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

Absolutely no problem holding off (it has to be something dangerously bad to get me edit warring). As for sectioning when the time comes, sounds good and is of course the WP way. What I know about hide glue comes from having lived where it was still in use (back then). Ciao, Awien (talk) 19:14, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

tüchlein

I thought the German term needsed an article, but no doubt some of this article needs to be merged there or vice versa. I'm not sure which and where... -- Theramin (talk) 00:07, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

You article is better than what's here, but I think should be merged into this one, this one bearing the English term. Very nice work Theramin. Ceoil (talk) 00:17, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

I see a smililar problem happening someday with Notname, there being no satisfactory term in English. Ceoil (talk) 00:20, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

Theramin, have finally gotten around to this and completed the merge. Ceoil (talk) 22:31, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

Cheers. I'll just add a link to the pre-merge version here, which has a few details that were not copied across.[1] I suspect others know (better than I do) what should be copied and what should be left out. -- Theramin (talk) 00:47, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Restore by Image Processing?

Why cannot colors and contrast be enhanced using a scanned image using Photoshop or other image processing? Sure, you can't mess the original, but there should be a way for us on the internet to see such images in much better glory, close to the original.97.95.38.108 (talk) 22:47, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

Tüchlein, again

"Tüchleinfarben meaning “small cloth colours”, or Tüchlein derived from the German words Tüch and Lein ("fabric" and "flax")" Sorry, the person coming up with this etymology got it all wrong. The "-lein" suffix has nothing to do with "Lein(en)" (cognate of engl. linen), "Tüchlein" is simply the diminutive of "Tuch" (as the correct translation "small cloth colours" already indicates), meaning fabric in German (not "Tüch" -- the umlaut derives exatly from the diminutive form, just as in "Frau"-"Fräulein"). If I remember correctly, "Tüchleinfarben", or "Malerläppchen" (little painter's rags), were precursors of today's portable watercolour boxes; the little pices of cloth which had been soaked with plant-based pigment solved in animal glue could be re-moistenend and would then give off the colour to paint with. 169.234.247.221 (talk) 19:10, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

I am probably ultimately responsible for the claim here that this usage of the term "tüchlein" is related to the German words "Tüch" and "Lein", having said such at tüchlein (actually, before it was merged, that article said: "The term is derived from the German words Tüch and Lein ("fabric" and "flax") and in German the term is also a diminutive of Tüch ("fabric") meaning "handkerchief".")

I think I got it from fr:Tüchlein, which refers to this: Les tüchlein et les succhi d’erba, Aurélie Minet, 2010: "Tüchlein est un mot d’origine allemande, « Tüch » signifiant « tissus » et « Lein » signifiant « lin »."

Do we have a good source that says different? A good German dictionary with etymology, for example? -- Theramin (talk) 23:11, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

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