Talk:HMS Fridericksteen

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There is some suggestion that the article is not appropriately located. Can we start a discussion on alternatives?

HMS Fredericksteen is the style used in Francis Beaufort's 2 autobiographies, also Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, Met Office Archives including this spelling in Beaufort's own hand on the cover of his weather diaries, also used in The Times Tuesday, Jun 03, 1817; pg. 4; Issue 10162. in note regarding the publication of Beaufort's book "Karamania"
HMS Frederickstein is used in the London Gazette entry for her sale and is used in the RM Greenwich archive and various mentions in the London Gazette, and in Lloyd's List (e.g.:^[2]. It is also her name in Admiralty records, which Colledge, and Rif Winfield (British Warships in the Age of Sail), used in their compendia of vessels of the Royal Navy. It is the name that Marshall uses in some biographies of naval officers, as does William O'Byrne in his 1849 A naval biographical dictionary.^[3] Lastly, it is the name that Captain Joseph Nourse, Beaufort's predecessor, used when writing from Smyrna.
HDMS Friderichssteen (1800) is the style used when the article was last moved and reflects her launch name and her name in various Danish naval records.
HMS Fridericksteen is the style currently used and is probably the least preferred style
HMS Frederickssteen with 2 S's is used in Marshall's Royal Naval Biography Supplement Google Books, and Beaufort also uses this spelling in his weather diaries from p42 onwards and on the Title page of Beaufort's book Karamania
HMS Frederiksteen or HMS Frederikssteen both seem to be used occasionally, although not in any great numbers 1

Any others? CalzGuy (talk) 07:03, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Oops, just noticed that I misspelt the article name when trying to return it CalzGuy (talk) 07:11, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

My preference would be "HDMS Friderichssteen (1800)", her launch name, and to address most common variants via redirects.Acad Ronin (talk) 17:11, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

On the modern Danish website details of this ship are stored under the name Friderichssteen. This leads (through the button marked "vis") to four technical drawings of the ship from 1800 - three name the ship Frederikssteen, one names it as Frederiksteen (which I take as a mis-type, missing out a middle letter S ). Viking1808 (talk) 17:50, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The pre-internet record card for this ship has the name as Frederikssten(1800). Perhaps we should accept the Danish Naval website's name before we get any more complicated, so I agree with Acad Ronin above. Viking1808 (talk) 18:23, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

FRIDERICHSSTEEN, fregat (1800-1807) is how Johny Balsved's danish naval history website lists the ship, but without further details. Viking1808 (talk) 18:48, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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References

^ Lloyd's List №4708. Accessed 4 October 2016.
^ Lloyd's List reported that Sally, had arrived at Gibraltar on 18 September, and that she was a prize to Frederisckstein.^[1]
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[1] Lloyd's List №4708. Accessed 4 October 2016.

[2] Lloyd's List reported that Sally, had arrived at Gibraltar on 18 September, and that she was a prize to Frederisckstein.^[1]

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