Talk:J-blogosphere

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List of J-Blogs[edit]

Should we have a list of JBlog sites? --רח"ק | Talk 07:25, 14 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think you might run afoul the rule on vanity pages or something, but kol hakavod. You also might consider setting up a separate wiki for a list. BrevisLux 22:05, 14 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Merger of J-Blogs[edit]

I merged J-Blogs into this article. BrevisLux 22:05, 14 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Also, what about renaming this page "Jewish Blogosphere?" BrevisLux 22:31, 14 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Details, details[edit]

It seems like a couple people are going back and forth on certain portions. May I ask why each feels it should or should not be included. SerandEz

I originally removed the part about the Canonist because it was poorly written and contained unverifiable facts. I think the stuff about the JIBs should be consolidated into the "JIB" section. Also, there was some outright vandalism. Editors should use this talk page to address questions, not post them into the article. I left the sections that keep going back in forth in the hope that: (a) we can discuss them here; (b) the authors will attempt make the consolidations on their own. BrevisLux 22:03, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Which parts are unverifiable? Perhaps we could remove those parts and rewrite the others better? Some parts seem tangentional; I'm not sure if those should or shouldn't be included, or if perhaps they belong in seperate subsections. --Ezzie 23:16, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Make me an edit!(At this point I would rather let some people try their hand at reorganizing the material. I'll give it a day and see what develops). I am also a little concerned about the Canonist reference, as there is no hard and fast way of determining its accuracy, but so long as no one objects, I suppose it can stay in. That JIB stuff in the "General" section really doesn't belong there. If someone disagrees, this is the page to let me know. Also, putting a colon at the beginning of a comment indents it. Two colons double indents, etc. BrevisLux 06:47, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"make a fence"[edit]

After some research I learned what it means to "make a fence for the Torah", which you perhaps might think I should already have known. Nevertheless, shouldn't the use of this phrase in the first paragraph be explained or at least linked on this page? "Making a fence" for a blog doesn't make much sense on the face of it. -Rpresser 21:56, 15 May 2006 (UTC) [signature added later, sorry][reply]

What are you referring to? BrevisLux 22:03, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

From the article:

Israellycool, the site which administers the awards for the J-blogosphere, makes a fence of Israel advocacy and pro-Israel attitudes, loosely defined, for the competition.

If this isn't referring to Pirke Avot 1:1, then it really really needs to be defined, because I don't understand it. -Rpresser 22:14, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I thought that might be what you are referring to. The way I read it, whoever put that in was not making an allusion to Pirkei Avot, I think it was just a poorly written sentence. It seems the author meant to say that Israellycool created categories for the awards. Feel free to take a crack at a rewrite. I think all this stuff should be moved into the JIBs section anyway. BrevisLux 22:21, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

J-Blogs vs. J-Blogosphere[edit]

Since a J-blog is a component of the J-Blogosphere, as per Wikipedia policy, it makes more sense to have "J-Blog" redirect here. BrevisLux 22:08, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This page suffers from a lot of problem (including undue weight, lots of link spam, peacock, and few refs), but the biggest ones (in my mind at least) appears to be original research and violations of No true Scotsman. We need to find citations for these "facts" or remove them. Here is a small sample of things that seem questionable:

  • Blogs with a Jewish focus are called J-Blogs. (NTS)
  • The name "J-Blogosphere" was coined by Steven I. Weiss... (cite it please)
  • ..."Protocols" a defunct group J-blog, and one of the first notable Jewish blogs (OR)
  • Variations on the term were employed there as early as August, 2003... (OR)
  • A blog is generally accepted as a "J-blog", or part of the "J-blogosphere", if the blogger is Jewish and discusses Jewish political, religious, or personal themes.... (OR, NTS)
  • The entire "Most influential J-bloggers" section is uncited, unprovable OR.
  • The "Blogs a rabbi must read" section would appear to violate WP:WEIGHT

There is very little in this article this is actually usable in its current form, and we need to do some serious work on it. --Bachrach44 (talk) 18:15, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Would it be ok to move this to Jewish blogosphere? Jodi.a.schneider (talk) 14:27, 17 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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