Talk:List of United States presidential firsts
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Washington a redhead?[edit]
According to the Mount Vernon website, he had red hair as a young man. But a lot of people have lighter hair in their youth. I was a blonde until early childhood, but my hair is very dark now. What say the group? https://www.mountvernon.org/george-washington/facts/myths/ten-misconceptions-about-washington/ Bkatcher (talk) 03:32, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- I think Washington is a very problematic entry on this list. He was the first of everything. Maybe he was the first that was at one time a redhead, but as a president he was not a redhead, so I think that fails criteria to be included.--Jack Upland (talk) 03:56, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
First president to service in a Global Conflict: Wilson or Madison?[edit]
As it stands right now, Woodrow Wilson has "First president to serve as president during a global conflict." for the fact he served in office during World War One.
I disagree with this statement. James Madison served as President during the War of 1812 and while US historians consider it a standalone war in its own right, both French and British historians agree that 1812 was a minor theater in the Napoleonic Wars. The Napoleonic Wars, much like the Seven Years War, are considered to be global conflicts.
I think "global conflict" should fall under Madison whilst "World War" should be under Wilson. I'm open to finding a consensus on this and would like to hear your thoughts. PaulRKil (talk) 12:48, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think it should be in either of those because what constitutes a "global conflict" is waaaaay too ambiguous. The American Revolution was an arm of the various European wars and George Washington fought in it. Why isn't it HIM? pbp 14:54, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
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