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I did some grammar fixups etc. Maybe we could change the wording in the beginning - in English, "Oriental Cult" has a very negative connotation. Also, the census is about religous groups, the title says religion. This isn't an issue except in the case of Jews (a religious group), as opposed to Judaism (a religion). So it should read either:

Orthodox Christianity
...
Judaism
Oriental cults

(all faiths) OR

Orthodox Christians
...
Jews
Oriental cultists (not really a word)

(all adherents). So I think we should go with the former, and change Oriental Cults to "Non-abrahamic religions" or "Eastern religions" or "Oriental beliefs" or even "Buddhism, Hinduism, etc.". Let me know what you think. - Adam Mathias 05:47, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the "Oriental Cults" is the term listed in the official 2002 Serbian census results, thus we cannot change census results, but we can change this word within the "Other religions" section. So, you can change what you want in the "Other religions" section, but the census results at the beginning of the article should stay as they are. PANONIAN (talk) 16:27, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, in that case, like I say, nothing we can do. But about consistency, I guess what I'm saying is, Judaism and Oriental Cults are religions or something of that nature, whereas a Jew is a person (who, in this one special case, basically belongs to a race and usually also a religion - I don't need to tell you that of course). So did the census really mix the nature of the categories (Jew: a member of an ethnic group, and Oriental Cult: a type of religion)? Also, I don't think that "the Catholic Church organization" is right. I tried to capture what I think you're trying to say, but you reverted it. I think "an official Catholic Church" or "an organized Catholic Church" are the best options. Adam Mathias 18:23, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In the Serbian censuses, every citizen get a census formulary with questions and EMPTY LINES where the answers should be written. There are separate questions for ethnicity, religion and language. In the case of Jews, they could to state both, their ethnicity and their religion as "Jew". The census results presented in the article are those for religion, not for ethnicity. In 2002 census results for ethnicity, ethnic Jews are not listed separately but in the category "others". I only know the number of ethnic Jews in 2002 census in Novi Sad, but not in Vojvodina or Serbia. As for "Oriental Cults", I think that people did not really declared that in census, but that the people from the statistical office listed all these small Oriental religions within the category "Oriental Cults". The similar issue was with the regional affiliation as answer to ethnicity question. The people who declared themselves as Vojvodinians, Bosnians, Herzegovians, etc, were all listed within the category "regional affiliation". Now about Catholic Church organization. I translated this part from Serbian text, and my translation maybe is not best, but fact is that an organized Catholic Church did existed in the Medieval Kingdom of Hungary, thus the meaning of the text is that Orthodox population from the region was only a stumble for Catholic Church, but this does not mean that this Church was not organized because of them. PANONIAN (talk) 15:19, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I have gone through the page and attempted to fix up some small grammar mistakes. (This mostly consited of the addition -- and subtraction -- or articles, which I fully understand is difficult for non-native speakers of English to master.) I am wondering if there is any detailed census information about Protestant Chrisitians. "Protestant Christianity" includes a whole host of groups, from Reformed Hungarians and Slovakian Lutherans (which are "traditional" religious groups in Serbia) to Baptists, Pentacostals, Adventists, etc. which are not considered traditional. For instance, are the majority of Slovak Protestants in Backi Petrovac Slovakian Lutheran? Or do they also belong to other Protestant groups? (I believe there is also a fairly large Baptist church there.)

The official publications of the Serbian statistical office simply list all these groups as Protestants, so there is no way to check how many of them are Baptist, Lutheran, etc. Regarding Slovaks in Bački Petrovac, they are adherents of Slovak Evangelist church of Augzburg faith (Slovačka evangelistička crkva augzburške veroispovesti). PANONIAN (talk) 16:56, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]