Talk:List of 12 Monkeys episodes

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@Rswallis10: To avoid being faced with original research, please give your source on how the series will never again reach a million viewers for an episodes. Also, please do make up your mind - do we display three figures if it's never reached a million viewers, or if it's never again going to reach a million viewers? You seem to be making these guidelines up as you go. Alex|The|Whovian? 01:05, 28 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@AlexTheWhovian: It's strictly an educated guess that it'll never reach 1M again. I really don't want an edit war every time I go edit a new page. I understand that you don't like me, and that's fair; I've honestly never been particularly fond of you myself. But SERIOUSLY... this is the reason that people quit editing Wikipedia, it is like impossible to do any constructive editing without being reverted. I truly am sick of fighting every day I go on here, and I'd like to just get along. Let me explain why I included a third digit here. I always add a third digit for shows that either (1) Have never crossed the 1M viewers threshold, OR (2) Crossed the threshold on very rare occasions (premieres/finales) and are extremely unlikely to ever cross it again (ie 12 Monkeys). If you really want 2 digits on this page, then fine, I won't revert again; because I really have no vested interest in this show. In regards to Blindspot, I simply just didn't see the source at the top of the table, so that was completely my fault, and I haven't reverted again. It is very hard to accomplish anything on here when having to worry about getting reverted for some reason or another, so I'd like to propose a truce. We are both on here for the same reason: we like TV and we want to make the best possible TV articles we can. I know you are not a fan of the 3 digits thing I do, and I do appreciate that you accept it on the pages that it's on, so if there's anything you'd like me to do (pages to make, fix, change; ratings to add, change, fix) please don't hesitate to ask me because I'm truly sick of fighting. Rswallis10 (talk) 01:15, 28 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
So, basically, it is original research, no matter how educated it may be. I'm merely confused by your methods - on Black Sails in August last year, you said you added 3 digits because that's how Nielsen does it, but now, when it comes to displaying the figures in thousands (again, how Nielsen does it), it's a no-go. Especially since it's apparently the standard to display them in millions and we should all follow the standard, but the standard is also to display two decimal figures, but then that's modified for your own uses. You then state that figures should be three decimal places if and only if it's never gone over a million viewers, but then it gets changed to if it's never again going over a million viewers. I'm sure you can understand how an editor can get confused by all of this. Alex|The|Whovian? 01:23, 28 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@AlexTheWhovian: Nielsen sometimes displays viewers in millions, and sometimes in thousands. ShowBuzzDaily happens to use thousands, TVBTN tends to fluctuate between the 2. And let me clarify something, I have no problem with expressing viewers in thousands, but I like consistency. My personal opinion is that every page should express viewers in the same way; so that would mean that either every page expresses in thousands, or every page expresses in millions (but again that's just my opinion). There are no Wikipedia guidelines for how to do ratings, so I use my own guidelines. Are they arbitrary? Yes. Did I just make them up? Yes. Can I really enforce them? Of course not, and that's fine. Rswallis10 (talk) 01:37, 28 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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