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Question from MKHendry on User:MKHendry/subpage (11:19, 10 October 2021)

G'day, Isabelle Don't remember whether I mentioned to you my plan to respond to request for translation of some of Les Frères Jacques page in fr.wikipedia into English. Certainly put a note saying that into Talk on the Eng stub page for them. Planning to copy Fr page on a Sandbox page either bit by bit or entire and work on it there. Is that sensible? And is there any general translation advice on Wikipedia? And if you could look at my comments on the fr.wikipedia Les Frères Jacques page and respond, or ask someone more closely involved to do so, that would be grand.

Since writing that, I've been getting on with the job. Using a subpage, to translate and adapt paragraph by paragraph. Then I click Publish changes. Three times now I've done a paragraph or two and clicked Publish changes but that clearly is not the right thing to do because when I go back to Edit source, my translated paragraphs have vanished. I'm never going to be able to do the whole job in one go and I can't be sure that Firefox, which I'm working with, won't go down, as it does from time to time. What's the best thing to do to save the work I've done so far? Many thanks MKH --MKHendry (talk) 11:19, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

Hi MKH! There are two important things to know about translating content from one wiki to another: the first thing you'll need to do is give attribution to the original article when you move your draft to main space. You can also give attribution at the time you create the draft, by adding a link in the edit summary to the version of the page you are translating, something like: This article is a translation of Les Frères Jacques, more specifically, this version of October 2021. You also, of course, need to know the language you are translating from and to, to avoid creating a badly translated article, which can end up creating more work for other editors to try and fix it. You can get more advice at Wikipedia:Translation and its related pages.
Wikipedia also has a special page to translate articles from other Wikipedias at Special:ContentTranslation. I'm not sure if you have access to it already, but if you do, I recommend using it, as it saves your work as you are doing it, although it has some drawbacks, since it uses a visual editor. Give it a try!
Concerning you issue with saving your page, this might be because you are taking too long to finish the edit before saving, which would cause your session to end. If that happens, Wikipedia gives a warning that you lost your session, but you shouldn't lose your edit, it should still be available for you to save it again. If you don't want that to happen, simply open Wikipedia on a different tab before saving your work and your session should reset. I checked your subpage and it seems to be working (the translation seems to be mostly done). Isabelle 🔔 15:04, 10 October 2021 (UTC)


Thank you, Isabelle. My French is pretty good, I'm not just sitting there with a dictionary looking it up word by word and if you've been looking, I hope v much that it doesn't read as if that's what I'm doing. I'm a little far off finishing, but when I'm closer, I'll be back here looking at what you said about attribution to the Fr version. In fact, beginner tho' I very much am, I'd say the Fr could do with a little expertise. Particularly in the parts about the sort of 1944-46 period, there are references that I can't get to the bottom of on fr.wikipedia and I'd say that with about half the Fr population born since the Fr J stopped performing in 1982, some of it could do with a little TLC. MKHendry (talk) 21:04, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

I'm glad to hear you are almost done with the translation, MKHendry! When you are done and ready to move it to the main space, feel free to leave me a message so I can go over it briefly. With regards to the translation's quality, I didn't mean to say you don't know the language, just a generic advice, considering some recent drama in the project related to automatic translations. I personally know very little French, and so won't be able to help with research on the subject, but you are always welcome to help the French project as well. If you want help from other editors, you can always try WikiProjects, such as the WP:WikiProject France, by leaving a message on its talk page (though it's never a guarantee someone will answer). Isabelle 🏴‍☠️ 21:19, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

Question from Alcheter (18:25, 12 October 2021)

Hello there. I want ask: How does making something/someone wikipedia page works? --Alcheter (talk) 18:25, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

Hi and welcome to Wikipedia, Alcheter! If you want to create a new article about someone or something, consider reading our guide for yourfirst article. But before you attempt at creating a new article, I recommend you get used to editing on Wikipedia by doing small changes to existing articles. Please see our page on helpful topics. If you have any more questions, feel free to ask me or at the teahouse. Isabelle 🔔 18:35, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

Question from I dream of horses (05:11, 22 October 2021)

Hi. According to the editor help panel (which I'll disable here in a moment), you're my mentor. I hadn't realized. I had a chuckle at the thought that I'd need one. I think it only makes sense if you think like a computer.

Frankly, I'm surprised you were around when I first created this account and you're still around. I hope all is well. Feel free to ask me any questions. --I dream of horses (Contribs) (Talk) 05:11, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

Hi there! I was honestly quite surprised when I saw your username popping up as part of the mentorship program, haha. I'm doing good, though a tad busy, and I hope you are doing well too. Isabelle 🔔 22:58, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

Question from Cjohnson.1957 (16:44, 22 October 2021)

Thanks Isabelle! The only thing I couldn't figure out how to do was to upload a photo after I edited the entry. Caroline --Cjohnson.1957 (talk) 16:44, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

Hi Caroline! Welcome to Wikipedia and thanks for helping improve John Davenport's article. If you want to upload an image, I recommend you read Wikipedia:Uploading images, which explains the steps one must take, as well as the rules they must follow so that the image is not removed (which happens mostly due to copyright issues). If you have any further questions about specific steps of this process, or any other issues, feel free to ask here or at the teahouse. Isabelle 🔔 23:01, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

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Question from Ifsowhen on User:Ifsowhen/sandbox (12:27, 25 October 2021)

Hello Isabelle, I am busy trying to get my first article read for editor review and I do not like the way the automated TOC looks and has positioned itself. I have been reading all the help info and articles do not address how to proper remove the automated TOC and replace it with TOC in the visual editor. I read all the text editor information and I fell I can easily proceed but my sandbox page is not offering the ability to use text editor. Please and thank you in advance for your mentoring advice. ifsowhen --Ifsowhen (talk) 12:27, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

Hi Ifsowhen! I'm not sure I understand the issue correctly. Is it that you can't edit your sandbox using the source editor? You should be able to edit the source of any page as long as you have "Enable the editing toolbar" marked on your editing preferences. If the issue is that the default table of content is showing before the lede, it's because you've added a level 2 header at the start (== Wolfgang Scheppe ==), which you should remove. Not only will this fix the issue, it is also needed according to our manual of style. I've went ahead and removed it for you so you can see what it should be like. If that didn't answer your question, or if you have more doubts, feel free to leave a reply here and I'll try to answer it. Isabelle 🔔 14:38, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the editing info Isabelle

hello Isabelle this is the main issue at this point

for each section 2 sets of numbers appear how do I erase the grey numbers?

ifsowhen — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ifsowhen (talk • contribs) 16:29, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

@Ifsowhen: That happens because you manually typed in "2.1" etc. before each section. Wikipedia's system automatically numbers sections and subsections when a table of content is generated, so, instead of a calling a section "2.1 Migropolis", one can simply call it "Migropolis". I've also noticed you are using bold in the section headers, which should be removed according to the manual of style. I hope this answer helped you. Isabelle 🔔 18:13, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

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Question from Mirlinda1995 (16:19, 30 October 2021)

How can i edit? --Mirlinda1995 (talk) 16:19, 30 October 2021 (UTC)

Hi there Mirlinda1995, and welcome to Wikipedia! I see you've already created a userpage for yourself, and that's one of the first steps in learning how to edit! If you simply have general questions on how to edit Wikipedia pages, consider reading our Guide on how to edit Wikipedia, which is very useful and will lead you to more information. I've also noticed you left an edit request for a page that is protected; if your doubt is how to edit those kinds of pages, then the answer is to keep contributing to other articles until you have the correct rights. For now you can do as you've done already and leave requests in the talk page so that other users may assist you. Isabelle 🔔 19:06, 30 October 2021 (UTC)

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Question from Boniface wambua makau (07:05, 1 November 2021)

Hi, how are you? --Boniface wambua makau (talk) 07:05, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

Hi Boniface wambua makau! I'm doing fine, thanks for asking! I hope you are as well. If you need any help navigating Wikipedia, feel free to ask. In the meantime, I've left you a welcome message in your talk page. Welcome! Isabelle 🔔 11:34, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

Expand Swedish

Hi, Isabelle Belato. Can you tell me what you are trying to accomplish with this change to Template:Expand Swedish? Until something is added to Category:Biography articles needing translation from Swedish Wikipedia, it doesn't really make sense to have this in the template code. Are you planning to recategorize some articles from the main category Category:Articles needing translation from Swedish Wikipedia into the new one, then it would make sense to have it. There are certainly plenty of biographies in that category (probably several hundred) which could benefit from being moved. Mathglot (talk) 08:12, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

Hi Mathglot. I added the "bio" tag to that template when I was tagging Felix Körling for possible expansion, using Template:Expand French as an example. After tagging that page, I checked to see if a red category would appear but none did, so I assumed it already existed. Checking the page's categories again, it appears that it was added only to the generic Category:Articles to be expanded from October 2021, it seems. I wouldn't mind help adding the "bio" tag to articles are missing, though I'm not sure how to fix the issue currently. Isabelle 🔔 11:33, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
Hi, Isabelle. Okay, I see mostly what happened (although not the part about why no red category appeared). I created Category:Biography articles needing translation from Swedish Wikipedia, but there's a delay until it gets populated, so you might not see Felix Körling there right away, but if it doesn't show up in a day, please let me know. Meanwhile, good job in attempting to create the new topic and categorize an article in it, by following an analogous setup for French, in the absence of any documentation about how to add topics. I'm going to beef up the documentation to provide better guidance how to add a topic, and if you're willing, maybe you could help me test the new documentation, by trying to follow it to create one more 'topic'. Let me know. Mathglot (talk) 22:13, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for the assistance, Mathglot. I'll see about attempting to add a new topic to an Expand Language template following the instructions, as well as adding more pages to the newly created category. Isabelle 🔔 23:58, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
You're welcome. Might take me a day or two to finish the instructions, but I'll get back to you. In the meantime, there's a ton of articles in the main Swedish category, that deserve to be moved to the Biography subcategory. If that's something you feel like working on, you can do it in assembly-line fashion if you keep one browser tab or window open to Category:Articles needing translation from Swedish Wikipedia, and then:
  • go down the list, Ctrl+Click on articles that look like a biography, until you have a dozen tabs or so open
  • For each article you opened:
  • Edit the article and find the {{Expand Swedish}} template
  • Paste |topic=bio into the template call; it can go anywhere, but after the name is good, e.g.:
    • {{Expand Swedish|Fredrik Aarnseth|topic=bio|date=July 2013}}
  • Add an edit summary e.g., Added Expand topic=bio., Preview as needed, and Publish.
  • After saving, kill that browser tab and go to the next one; when done, pick a dozen more.
I just did this for the first ten on the Category page (took me 4 minutes) and you can see them listed now at this subcategory. If you select/copy the |topic=bio you can paste it into the template, and the edit summary, and it goes faster. Mathglot (talk) 00:40, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
I see some more A's, and some B's and C's in there now, so you've got it! Note also, when you go to Template:Expand Swedish and scroll down to the topics table, it now sees those entries and has automatically added them to the tally in the first row of the table. I'll be back later with some new template instructions to try out. Mathglot (talk) 17:39, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
Indeed, I've been going through the main category and trying to sort the articles where possible. I did notice that to sort under "Culture" you need to use "culture" instead of the shorter "cult". Reading the template's code, there is both a "cult" and "culture" variable. I considered attempting to fix it but decided to ask you here instead first: would changing "| cult" to "| cult = Culture" fix the issue while allowing for both "cult" and "culture" to be usable when adding a topic without breaking anything? Hope I'm not being much of a bother, Mathglot! Isabelle 🔔 17:46, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

Not a bother at all; to the contrary: your comments and questions (and what amounts to a bug report in your last post; thanks for that!) are really helpful in improving the template and its documentation. That's why I thought you'd be ideal to help test the (forthcoming) doc changes about how to add a new topic. Mathglot (talk) 20:45, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

Isabelle, I added a new section to the documentation. Can you have a look at the documentation now, and check it out, to see if there's anything that isn't clear about adding new topics? Mathglot (talk) 07:27, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
I've gone through it now, Mathglot. That's a very long explanation, but also very helpful. I especially appreciate the explanation on what to add to the new category when creating it, and how to create new topics outside the default ones. The "Quickstart" section will be very useful for people like me, who have a superficial knowledge of template editing, and need some handholding, at least the first few times. I think my only suggestion to improve it would be to try and wikilink "#switch" to a page that explains what it means (Help:Conditional expressions#Using #switch seems like the best place).
Many thanks for the work you've put into this! Isabelle 🔔 14:27, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
That's a good idea; I added that. Feel free to adjust the page directly if you think of anything else, or just ping me. Cheers, Mathglot (talk) 17:14, 5 November 2021 (UTC)

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Thanks for the star, Bernardwebb357. I also love books and writing about them, specially picture books, so thanks for helping improving Wikipedia's coverage of them! Isabelle 🔔 13:45, 7 November 2021 (UTC)

Question from MKHendry on User:MKHendry/subpage (13:04, 8 November 2021)

Hello after a bit of a gap.

I've done my best with the Frères Jacques. There are very few citations because there are very few on the French page from which I was working. I suspect a lot of it comes from the magazine that is the one citation. It has a website but I couldn't fathom how look at the back issues on line – or even whether you can. The mag has not bothered to respond to my email asking whether you can look at back issues. In the outside sources, I mentioned that the Fr Wiki page has a large discography. I don't think it's worth copying it into En Wiki because anyone remotely interested will have found it long ago. But I was unsure whether to put a link in, and also how to do so. I also mention that Spotify has records and YouTube has film of them. The names of both have links to their Wikipedia articles but I was uncertain whether I should put in links to the actual sites (and if so, how to do so). I'm sure there are other things I don't know whether or how to do. The FJ page in English says two or three Wikipedia projects are interested: should I alert them to what I've done or let them find out for themselves? Somewhere a thing flashed up saying I could ask someone more expert than me to look at the page before I put it up but that seems to have vanished. With a bit of luck, you'll do that. When I do feel ready to put it up, do I just cut and paste it from the source of my user page or is there more to it than that? Responses to any or all of the above gratefully received.

MK --MKHendry (talk) 13:04, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

Hi MKHendry, it's nice to hear again from you. I'm not sure I will be able to answer all your questions, but I'll try my best to help.
Let's talk citations and sources first. The French article (from which you are translating, if I understood it correctly) contains a lot of notes but very few actual sources, many of which are either about the death of a member or from the magazine Je chante, as you pointed out. My recommendation here is to go search for new sources to verify what is being said, otherwise it's likely that the article won't be accepted or will have those sections removed for lack of reliable sources. Much of the article as is right now is unsourced, including in its French version.
You say you tried to contact the magazine, in order to verify the information and possibly continue sourcing the article, which is a laudable endeavor. Unfortunate that they did not answer you. Since your account is still much too young, you cannot access the Wikipedia Library, which gives access to a number of databases for free (one of which contains copies of Le Monde, which might've been helpful). But, you can always ask for help at the Resource Exchange project, where editors with access to those databases (and others) can provide sources that you usually couldn't access.
With regards to the discography, I don't think there is any harm in adding the list in your English article (again, will need some sources, but these should be easier). If you don't want to add everything due to its size (and, as you say, those interested might already know of it), you can simply add their most famous ones and, in the External Link section, add a link to a website that contains a more expansive list. You say that you mention the French article in your draft, but I don't think I've ever seen that done, so it might go against the manual of style. I'd avoid adding a link to YouTube and Spotify, as it might be perceived as advertisement.
The names of both have links to their Wikipedia articles but I was uncertain whether I should put in links to the actual sites (and if so, how to do so). I'm not sure what you mean here. Who is "both"?
I'd highly recommend you leave a not at the more relevant WikiProjects' talk pages, which would be WikiProject France (here) and WikiProject Music (here). Simply write a short paragraph explaining you are trying to expand the Les Frères Jacques article by translating from the French Wikipedia, but might need help finding more sources, and leave a link to your subpage. No one might respond (which is somewhat common), but you might also find other interested editors who might be able to help. WikiProjects are very useful exactly because of that.
Somewhere a thing flashed up saying I could ask someone more expert than me to look at the page before I put it up but that seems to have vanished. With a bit of luck, you'll do that. I'm not sure what thing that would be. Maybe it's part of the new editor program trying to help you.
Concerning your last question, I recommend you give WP:TRANSLATE a quick read, as it gives some helpful tips, and also Translating from other language Wikimedia projects, which explains what one must do when translating content from another project to the English Wikipedia. But putting it simply, you must add a link to the article you are translating from in your edit summary to give proper attribution. Something like: "The content added here was translated from fr:Les Frères Jacques, specifically from this version." Isabelle 🔔 15:30, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

Question from MKHendry on User:MKHendry/subpage (10:27, 9 November 2021)

Good morning, Isabelle, and many thanks for a very full answer to my questions. I will read, mark and inwardly digest the whole thing – as you know, I'm not terribly speedy at these things. But I would just like to say that I was looking out of curiosity at en.Wikipedia's page about the Frères Jacques a day or four after thinking I could offer my services and it said: "Translation from French page, please." So that's what I tried to do. I don't think I'm up for re-researching and improving a French page that seems to me not to come up to the standards en.Wikipedia sets. So as I say, I'll have a hard look at all the things you mention but if en.Wikipedia editors ultimately reject my page, that's up to them and I'll perhaps see if there's some other way I can contribute.

Thanks again MK

PS Apols if I have been neglecting my four-tilda sign-off! MKHendry (talk) 10:27, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

@MKHendry: I hope didn't discourage you to expand our Les Frères Jacques article! What you could do is work in parts. Incorporate the sections that are sourced and, as you find more sources, add them to the main article. If my French was better I'd offer my help, but I can always give you access to sources you might need, such as Le Monde. Isabelle 🔔 15:37, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

Question from MKHendry on Wikipedia:WikiProject Resource Exchange/Resource Request (17:39, 9 November 2021)

Isabelle, many thanks again for your long message.
I have put a request for help on the Resource Exchange project; I have put a note in what seemed an appropriate part of the WikiProject France page; I have spurned the WikiProject Music page as I couldn’t find anywhere even remotely appropriate; I have had a look at the two wiki translate links you suggested and I will go to the manual of style to see what it has to say – I have looked at it but there’s an awful lot there to memorise. I’ve also put on the line you suggested about my page being a translation of the French page. I may yet be back for more help, if you can bear it. MKHendry (talk) 17:39, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

MKHendry: I'm always glad to help. I'd suggest you don't worry too much about the manual of style. In the beginning, your best approach is to use other, already existing articles as examples, and learn things as they are pointed to you. Isabelle 🔔 20:08, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

Magic School Bus hijacking

I think I found another sock of this person: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/NordicOriginal101

Edits on lords and ladies articles then immediately jumps into kids' TV shows, although not the Magic School Bus wizzito | say hello! 02:21, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

Question from Dinuli.M.K. (13:48, 11 November 2021)

how do I use the symbles in the wiki editing page? --Dinuli.M.K. (talk) 13:48, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

Hi Dinuli.M.K., and welcome to Wikipedia! Could you be more specific on what symbols do you want to use? For an overview on how to edit, see Introduction to editing with VisualEditor. Isabelle 🔔 13:53, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

Question from Dinuli.M.K. (02:44, 12 November 2021)

How can I creat a new draft and how do I make the topic? --Dinuli.M.K. (talk) 02:44, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

Hi again, Dinuli.M.K.. If you want to create a new draft page, you can go to our Article Wizard, which will quickly go through some ground rules, and then allow you to start your new page. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask! Isabelle 🔔 13:40, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

Question from Dinuli.M.K. (06:28, 16 November 2021)

Why can't I add a copyright to Wikipedia? --Dinuli.M.K. (talk) 06:28, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

@Dinuli.M.K.: I assume that is related to some of the content you added recently to Gordonia speciosa. The content that is present on Wikipedia is under a specific Creative Commons License, which means that everything we add must be under the same or similar license. We cannot add something from another website, book, video etc. because those are usually, as you said yourself, copyrighted by their owners. For the same reason a radio station cannot play a music without being given permission from its artist, we cannot add content without permission from their owners. Isabelle 🔔 14:04, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

Question from SUCHIDOT (01:00, 17 November 2021)

Hi

I have some photos for the page dedicated to THOMAS HIGHFLYER that I took to upload onto Wikipedia. This piece of Black history is has rare sources not often seen but I am unable to up load them. Copy of death certificate Picture of his restored grave There is no copyright infringement

How do I address this? Thank you.

Such --SUCHIDOT (talk) 01:00, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

Hi SUCHIDOT, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thanks for wanting to help improve such an important part of history. I don't see any logs showing you tried to upload a file but it was rejected or deleted. Have you tried using the project's Upload Wizard? If there are no copyright issues, you should choose the option that leads you to the Commons' Upload Wizard, which is the Wikimedia project that collects freely licensed files. If you are having technical issues, I recommend leaving a message at their Help Desk. Their editors should be able to help you upload and correctly license the files. Isabelle 🔔 12:00, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

Question from Dinuli.M.K. (05:32, 18 November 2021)

What I want to ask you this question just because I'm curios, When I make a draft, why does it take a few days for it to be published? And why can't I make the subject a little close to me? And I'm just asking... --Dinuli.M.K. (talk) 05:32, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Hi there, Dinuli.M.K.. When you submit a draft, it's added to a queue alongside all other drafts that have yet to be accepted or rejected. Due to the voluntary nature of this work, it's not uncommon for that to slowly grow as the months go by, meaning that sometimes it can take anywhere between a couple days to a couple months for an editor to get to you.
Concerning your second question, although it is not strictly prohibited to write about something or someone you are close to, it is seen as a bad practice due to conflict of interest. No one is free from bias, but we try our best to avoid it, and this includes not writing about subjects we are close to. It's instead recommend you request edits so that an unbiased editor may decide if the content is due or not to be addded. Isabelle 🏴‍☠️ 12:14, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Cheeky kittens

This is the pet I love the most, a kitten! I even have one as a pet. I just love their cuteness! And this cute kitten surely is a sneaky one (its spying on you right now!). My favorite type of cat (or kitten) is a Van cat (white ones mostly). And I hope that you like kittens too...

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Question from Dinuli.M.K. (15:08, 18 November 2021)

Hello Isabell! Thankyou for answering my questions so far but I still got some more... one, When I click my name link or something, There's something called a user page. Now, I heard about this page since I first came to Wikipedia, but I still don't understand what I am supposed to do about it... am I supposed to right about myself in it? I just don't understand... --Dinuli.M.K. (talk) 15:08, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Hi there Dinuli.M.K.. Thanks so much for that cute kitten! I have a pet cat called Alice, and she is the most precious thing to me (even though she can be a bit feisty at times!). With regards to your question, a user page is a place where we can write a bit about ourselves as Wikipedia editors. Some users like to showcase their achievements (such as created articles, barnstars received and so on), some prefer to use it to let others know what they like to write about through the use of userboxes, while others might simply redirect it to their talk page. It's not a place to create drafts for articles, though. If you don't know what to write in there, you can simply leave it blank, or you can use other users' page as examples (that's how I got to mine). Isabelle 🔔 15:17, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Special Barnstar
Thank you for the welcome! :) Fujibeard (talk) 00:23, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

"Promotional" edit

Can you please explain specifically in what way my edit to https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=PBRT&diff=1056293454, which you reverted, was promotional? I am well aware of Wikipedia's goals and principles and believe that my edit was reasonable. (That page is also currently redirecting to an inappropriate destination.)

Fishmouse (talk) 00:17, 21 November 2021 (UTC)

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December 2021 at Women in Red

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--Innisfree987 (talk) 00:12, 27 November 2021 (UTC) via MassMessaging

my edit

you have reverted my edit to at anthony’s girls catholic academy’s wiki page. I have given helpful information that i know will make many think before they choose to go to this school. Please bring my work back. Thanks 82.132.237.15 (talk) 17:24, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

Please read Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not. Isabelle 🔔 17:28, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

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It’s a matter of fact that YMCA McBurney was part of New York’s “bath house” culture.

It’s not even argued against anymore. 193.116.110.131 (talk) 15:28, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

Ok? Isabelle 🔔 15:30, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

Please don't hurt sentiments of community

Shambhuka is a topic which is not based on evidence and the data insults our God .You have been constantly putting images which are disturbing Hindus . Ss125 (talk) 17:34, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

@Ss125: Please consider reading the warnings left at your talk page, which have links to important policies of the project. Also be reminded that oen should avoid casting WP:ASPERSIONS about other editors in good standing. Isabelle 🔔 17:49, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
Thanks for holding down the fort! Adakiko (talk) 14:03, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
Thanks very much, Adakiko! Isabelle 🔔 14:12, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

RFC

Hi, you closed a RFC which has not ended in the Eritrea talk page, ill restore it.Leechjoel9 (talk) 13:08, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Hi Leechjoel9. I closed the RFC because it had been requested at WP:Closure requests and due to the fact that it had been initiated almost 60 days ago (opened on October and relisted on November) and the last !vote was from almost two weeks ago, signifying the discussion had died down and I saw a clear consensus had formed. Per WP:CLOSECHALLENGE, I'd recommend you self-revert, as no compelling reason was given to overturn it. Thanks for bringing this up to me. Isabelle 🔔 13:21, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Im not "edit warring"

I am protecting my edits from targeted vandalism and harassment by various sock puppet accounts. Comradeka (talk) 14:09, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

@Comradeka: Unless it's something that needs immediate removal, it's better to just report the other editor and wait, instead of continually revert them. I did go ahead and self-revert me, as the other user has already been blocked. Isabelle 🔔 14:10, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
@Comradeka: I've now acquainted myself with the harassment you are going through from this user and I'd like to apologize for leaving that message on your userpage and worsening the situation. My suggestion above remains valid, but sorry for leaving a EW template there. Isabelle 🔔 14:45, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

You are an amazing Wikipedian, keep up the great work! LGBTQ+ Pride forever ;)

SassyGamer483 (talk) 19:19, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

Thanks SassyGamer483! Kittens are always welcome here, as well as my fellow queer folx! Isabelle 🔔 22:27, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

about external links

Sandiepichereau (talk) 13:37, 14 December 2021 (UTC)SandiepichereauSandiepichereau (talk) 13:37, 14 December 2021 (UTC) Hi, i posted some external links for ebooks from a website that is ok. Let me explain, the website is about new thought (which is the spiritual current to whom Grace Mann Brown took part), all the free books are so old that they are not copyrated, they all fall in this catégory. The website is about neville Goddard which is also dead and his material not copyrighted anymore (who was an author of the new thought movement), but it includes lots of other authors about the same subject. I could'nt find these references you removed on the archive website alas.

I'm not sure i have done this post the good way, you can correct if needed (about the syntax)

@Sandiepichereau: We usually do not add external links in the body of an article, as per WP:EL. In addition to that, external links should lead readers to places that will help them better understand the topic at hand. In addition to that, the works of the subject where you were reverted already contain links (in form of citations) to her works in the Internet Archive website, so adding further links give the impression of trying to advertise the website you are linking to. Isabelle 🔔 16:22, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

What

……………hello — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.37.96.62 (talk) 16:17, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

Robert J McCann article

Why are you editing the Robert McCann article?
@Dnrivers: Please read WP:NPOV and WP:RS. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) Isabelle 🔔 16:09, 15 December 2021 (UTC)


@Isabelle Belato, please let me know what sections specifically you have an issue with and what claims need to be cited. I can adjust and edit accordingly. I have no interest other than updating this article accurately and fairly and I want to do it the right way.

Dnrivers (talk) 16:30, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

RFC close

Thank you for the lengthy explanation at Talk:Warsaw concentration camp#RfC: Haaretz article on errors in WP article about the Warsaw concentration camp. It is clear you put a lot of thought into the job. Wikipedia benefits greatly when uninvolved editors such as yourself help resolve deeply contested issues. Jehochman Talk 18:10, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

@Jehochman: Thanks, though I feel I can be a bit too verbose at times. I hope my close was fair. Isabelle 🔔 18:39, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
In this instance, verbose was beneficial. I don't see any complaints. You did a fine job. Jehochman Talk 21:04, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

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RFA 2021 Completed

The 2021 re-examination of RFA has been completed. 23 (plus 2 variants) ideas were proposed. Over 200 editors participated in this final phase. Three changes gained consensus and two proposals were identified by the closers as having the potential to gain consensus with some further discussion and iteration. Thanks to all who helped to close the discussion, and in particular Primefac, Lee Vilenski, and Ymblanter for closing the most difficult conversations and for TonyBallioni for closing the review of one of the closes.

The following proposals gained consensus and have all been implemented:

  1. Revision of standard question 1 to Why are you interested in becoming an administrator? Special thanks to xaosflux for help with implementation.
  2. A new process, Administrative Action Review (XRV) designed to review if an editor's specific use of an advanced permission, including the admin tools, is consistent with policy in a process similar to that of deletion review and move review. Thanks to all the editors who contributed (and are continuing to contribute) to the discussion of how to implement this proposal.
  3. Removal of autopatrol from the administrator's toolkit. Special thanks to Wugapodes and Seddon for their help with implementation.

The following proposals were identified by the closers as having the potential to gain consensus with some further discussion and iteration:

  1. An option for people to run for temporary adminship (proposal, discussion, & close)
  2. An optional election process (proposal & discussion and close review & re-close)

Editors who wish to discuss these ideas or other ideas on how to try to address any of the six issues identified during phase 1 for which no proposal gained are encouraged to do so at RFA's talk page or an appropriate village pump.

A final and huge thanks all those who participated in this effort to improve our RFA process over the last 4 months.

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01:46, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

Hey you had just send me a message about Selena

Ok can you tell me why you text me Maddies scarystorytimes (talk) 23:32, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

Why did you text me about Selena Maddies scarystorytimes (talk) 23:35, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

@Maddies scarystorytimes: Feel free to read the message I've left in your user talk page. It's about an edit of yours I reverted due to the removal of an infobox from an article. Isabelle 🔔 23:37, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

Ok I still don’t get it Maddies scarystorytimes (talk) 23:45, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

Wait can you tell me what happened because I am so lost Maddies scarystorytimes (talk) 23:47, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

@Maddies scarystorytimes: I'm not sure what you are having trouble with. Could you be more specific? Isabelle 🔔 23:53, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

Sorry brother.

I have a mistake... Alamin01bd (talk) 15:46, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

Klein ISD Wikipedia page

Hi. My name is Brian McEntee and am a student at Klein High. I recently was involved in a hearing/appeal through the district and the result was me getting my punishment overturned. This is the first time it has ever happened in Klein ISD history. I have the official statement from a Joffrey Jones who is the Executive Director of Campus Safety and Support proving that this event did in fact take place. I would like for this event to be included under the “History” section of the Klein ISD Wikipedia page. Thanks, Brian McEntee Brian The Goat McEntee (talk) 02:57, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

Please read WP:COI, which states people that have conflict of interest with a subject should not directly articles about that. Also do read our policy on verifiability and reliable sources. Isabelle 🔔 03:07, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

It’s not a matter of conflict anymore. The whole appeals process has been closed as the result has already been decided. I am simply adding a factual event that is important to the districts history. I have reliable sources that this even did take place. Brian The Goat McEntee (talk) 03:27, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

If I can provide to you a statement from the district proving my claims, then it would be considered as a reliable source, correct? Brian The Goat McEntee (talk) 03:34, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

Question from HaseebModi (11:03, 19 January 2022)

Hello how are you? I want to create a biography, how to go about it --HaseebModi (talk) 11:03, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi HaseebModi, and welcome to Wikipedia. If you wish to start a new article on a person, I recommend you go through our guide on how to create your first page, which gives you all the information you will need. In case you have any further questions, feel free to ask them to me or visist the teahouse, where other experienced users will be able to assist you. Isabelle 🔔 13:01, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

Your message was received and have questions.

I received your message and I agree with your voice. I didn't knew about the external link guidelines. But there were links added before I did on Shark Tank India page. Seeing that, I got the idea of adding links to the page.

I am sorry if I have breached any guidelines under Wikipedia/Wikimedia. Thank you, GlobzWiki GlobzWiki (talk) 15:43, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

It's no problem, GlobzWiki. We try to avoid adding external links to the body of the article as much as possible, as it's considered to be spam. If there were links before, it's better to remove those than to add more. Isabelle 🔔 16:10, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
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